Cardinals & Indians Trade

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  1. danwin

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    Cardinals offer:

    Matt Holliday (LF, RF) 35 years old, 78 ovr. A pot. 2 yrs./ 17.1M a year

    Dean Anns 2B 28 years old, 67 ovr. C pot. 1 yr./ 510K

    Indians offer:

    Michael Bourne CF 32 yrs. old, 82 ovr. B pot. 2 yrs./ $12M a year
     
  2. NightHawkTH32

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    I would like to see either a younger prospect at the same rating/potential or a higher rated/potential at that age. Not a bad trade though. I'll vote yes
     
  3. majesty95

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    If you were CLE why would you accept this deal? You are getting an older, less skilled and significantly more expensive player for what? A career minor leaguer? Why would CLE make that deal?
     
  4. danwin

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    If you want to deny it just deny it, don't need to hear crap for it. Cleveland is looking for LF or RF. Holliday can play either. I'm offering a LF with power. Plus they want a 2B. I'm offering that also.
    If trade committee says no I will go with what they decide. I honestly don't think someone not on trade committee should be posting their opinion on a trade.
     
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  5. majesty95

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    You're free to your opinion. But we do trades in public for full transparency. I asked a simple question. Why would CLE want an older player, with less skills for $5M more per season? And is a 67 OVR 2B really filling their need?

    Everyone is part of the league and free to politely state a question. I would question why anyone would be opposed to that?
     
  6. danwin

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    Your trying to sway the committee because you run this site and you don't like the trade. If your not on trade committee I just feel you should keep quite till at least trade committee makes a decision. its like your trying to sway the jury. Let the jury do their job.
     
  7. woodsmall12

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    I know NightHawkTH32 mentioned possibly a B player and I'll agree with that statement ... Both holiday and Bourn are past their prime and will decline ... I think CLE is taking on more money so they need someone to contribute down the road for that ... C player prolly won't make that much of an impact to justify the 17mil a yr ... Find a B potential and I'll be on board
     
  8. majesty95

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    As I mentioned, all I asked for is clarification. I was honestly thinking Mickey Brantley when I first saw it. But a simple explanation of "Bourn is just a speed guy and Holliday has a good bat with some pop and feel that outweighs the $5M in salary" would have been fine.

    We do this in public for transparency. Anyone could conceivable post an objection. And anyone in a league on here should be able to handle some polite questions. If we are all committed to a fair and equitable balance it shouldn't be an issue. Personally, I never want anyone to think I'm trying to get over on another user or the CPU and would be happy to justify a reasonable question. I would hope most members would as well.
     
  9. danwin

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    And giving Holliday plus a B potential player is way to much for Bourne who is 32 years old.
     
  10. BigTexas18

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    I'm gonna vote no. I just don't see what's in it for CLE. Getting a digressing player and a guy who probably won't ever play in the majors at age 28
     

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