Bears/Seahawks - DENIED

[JNYHART]

Seattle Seahawks- JNYHART (Cap Space-29.9m ,Cap Penalty 2.9m)


Jarran Reed DT, Age: 24, 2 years 4.85m Rem, 860k Cap pen


Shaq Griffen CB, Age:23, 75 OVR, 3 years 3.37m rem, 570k cap penalty




Chicago Bears- Paytonno1son (28.2m Cap space, 0 Cap Penalty)

Trading: 2018 2 Round Pick (45th OVR)


Seahawks are trying to acquire a 2nd rd pick because they do not have one. Bears are trying to bring in some youth and potential at CB and DT.

majesty95 pack1797 firedup24 Omletnator13 wyrmreaver

 

[Omletnator13]

Yes. Looks pretty close. 2 veteran owners. Seems like a go to me

 

[majesty95]

I feel like either one of those guys is possibly a second round pick by themselves. One is 23 and one is 24. I'm having a hard time trying to justify why this makes sense....

 

[Paytonno1son]

I can Send a lower round pick if it balances it

 

[majesty95]

I can Send a lower round pick if it balances it

Let's see what the others say. I've just never seen two guys traded for a 2nd. But maybe I'm missing something

 

[firedup24]

With the trading frenzy lately, I have tried to stay consistent with how I value players. This one is tricky to me. Reed is 79 OVR with two years left. I see him as a mid to late 2nd round pick as a DT. Griffin is actually the toughest part for me. He is actually a very solid corner even though he's a 75. Great speed and acc with above average coverage skills for a 75 OVR player. Considering the position, age and 3 years remaining, I can see his value being a little more than Reed. Get the awareness up and you got a nice young starting corner. This is for the 13th pick in the 2nd so my gut tells me that it needs a little more to complete it. I don't want to try to influence what should be added but I feel it needs a little work to make it through.

 

[pack1797]

Eh. They're young, but unremarkable. Value is a bit off, imho, so I'd like to hear more from Chicago on their plans. Not sure I see a starter, which that pick should be. No vote from me yet.

 

[firedup24]

You make a good point Pack about their value. Maybe I value them a little too much. I honestly see both of them as a starter and would be happy with either as my 2nd round pick.

 

[majesty95]

I echo what Scott says. Griffin is not far from being a starter or at least a very serviceable slot guy. Reed is rated like a 1st rounder but with only two years left can see 2nd round value. I also agree that I don't like to influence what teams can get, but I do want to see a little more as it seems like is only getting value back on one player.

 

[Omletnator13]

I’ll say this, it’s draft time, Seahawks are short on picks and are willing to give up a little more value than normal for a 2nd rounder.

 

[Omletnator13]

At least that’s my take. Payton did say his willing to thrownin a lower level pick if need be.

 

[majesty95]

I’ll say this, it’s draft time, Seahawks are short on picks and are willing to give up a little more value than normal for a 2nd rounder.

That's not for a committee member to say. We can ask questions and give our thoughts when voting but we shouldn't be trying to explain the mindsets of those involved.

 

[Omletnator13]

Ok

 

[wyrmreaver]

I can't approve this deal in its current form

A 24 year old 79 OVR DT is essentially what you'd expect if you drafted a DT in the first or second. A 23 year old 75 OVR corner is what you'd pray you could find in the second or third. To me the value is off quite a bit, if these players were closer to 30 than 20 I could see it.

I would approve if it was for a 2nd and a 3rd for sure, maybe a little less

 

[Paytonno1son]

Thanks for the feedback